Hello FF fans. I’m in an 18 team league. Team rosters are as follows:
QB - 1
WR - 5
RB - 4
TE - 1
Q/W/R/T - 1
K - 1
LB - 3
DT - 2
DE - 2
CB - 2
S - 2
BN - 6
My questions are…should I take my defensive players before I start picking my BN? Should I leave my kicker to the very last? I have only played FF once in an 8 team league and would appreciate any and all suggestions prior to my draft on Tuesday.
That’s a hell of a league! The draft is going to take forever! I don’t know if I could handle a 540 pick draft!
IDP leagues usually have plenty defensive players around even after the draft so I wouldn’t worry too much about drafting them early. Then again, depending on the scoring system I suppose defensive players could be valuable but in my experience they really aren’t. I’d probably start grabbing defensive players between the 13th and 15th rounds a the latest with an emphasis on LBs at first then safeties since they will both likely score more points than the DEs, DTs and CBs (in most formats). But once again, it depends on the scoring system. I can give you more specific advice if you post the scoring system so I can see what kind of offense/defense balance there is.
As for kickers, I’m actually fond of grabbing them in the 2nd to last round because normally everybody else takes them in the last round. This way you get a higher level kicker and since there isn’t really much talent on the board at other positions, you don’t miss out on much.
Anyway, post your scoring rules and I’ll give you a little better advice.
Man that’s a wacky league! Am I right in assuming that it is meant to literally be a team of fantasy football players? You are literally playing an entire offense and defense every week! One major question, Are the passing attempts and completions worth 5 points each or is it 5 completions to a point? Same deal with carries and receptions. I’m making these rankings based on the thinking that it’s 5 completions/attempts/receptions/carries to a point. If that is not the case then the defensive players are relatively valueless compared to the offensive points. I did the best I could to get some scoring estimates but it’s tough and I’m not sure how accurate they will be.
My estimates have the first LB off the board (Willis) going at about round four with next next defensive player (LB Jon Beason) not going until about round 7. The first DL, DE Jared Allen is probably going to go in round 7 as well and a lot of other LBs right after him. The next DL off the board was DE Justin Tuck who went about a round later. The first DB, Safety Bernard Pollard went in the mid eight as well. As for DT and CB, due to their inability to score much, they didn’t appear anywhere in the top 12 rounds.
Through 200 picks (just over 11 rounds), there were 17 LBs gone, 10 DEs, 5 safeties, no DTs and no CBs. Thus I’d say you might want to get your first one or two LBs and maybe a DE before round 10 but likely focus on offensive players otherwise.
My estimate is that your scoring will be split up like this:
QBs: I’d plan on using a QB in your flex position every week. This league is very QB biased so make sure you get two good ones. If you play two a week your production over the year out of the position should be about 530 points. (265 per QB)
RBs: Starting 4 RBs should net you about 610 or so points during the course of the year. (153 per RB)
WRs: 5 WRs will get you about 650 points or so a week (130 per WR)
TE: Figuring on you getting a top 15 or so TE, you can expect about 110-120 points her over the course of the season.
K: One of these guys should net you about 120 points over the course of the year
LB: 3 LBs should score you at least 643 points (215 per LB)
DE: 2 DEs should net you about 255 points during the year (128 or so per LB)
DT:To be honest, the DTs aren’t going to get you squat. Tackles are worth next to nothing in relation to other stats. The best DT in the league last year netted only 65 points. I’d expect your output to be more like 70 points between your two DTs for an average of 35 points a piece.
S: You probably manage about 420 points between your two safeties but definitely target Danieal Manning who will far outscore the other safeties because he will return kicks. To give yo an idea, he should score about 400 points whereas the next best safety will only score 250 or so. He’s worth grabbing early in the 7th or so since he’ll score far more than any other defensive player in your league. Take him with your first defensive pick for sure.
CB: Once again, you’ll want to go after Cbs that return kicks here because they’ll get you more points. You might be able to cobble together 300 points between 2CBs if you do this.
So in the end, I really have no idea what advice to give you. Make sure you get two starting QBs. Treat the first 8 rounds like a normal draft and try to get at least 3 RBs and WRs in those rounds. Next, you’ll want to grab an LB and/or Danieal Manning in about the 8th round. Then grab a couple more LBs and another safety. Your TE can be selected really anytime after round 8 or so. They won’t score much so I wouldn’t focus on them too much. Don’t take any DTs until after rounds 18 or 19 because they are virtual non-factors. You can grab your DEs after about round 10. CBs can go after about round 15. Make sure you have a couple Safeties before you go after CBs . Make sure you have all of your offensive starters before going after CBs and DTs and have most of them before you grab your second DE.
I’m betting that this draft is pretty much going to be a crapshoot! Good luck! Hope I helped at least a little!
Great stuff squish…once again I really appreciate the input. I’ve sent off a message to the commish regarding your question about completions and pts etc. Right now I’m going to carefully look over your last post again and digest your suggestions.
Yeah, if it’s five points for 1 of all those things then that draft is truly a crapshoot. Defensive players will be meaningless and the top defensive player will likely not get half the points during the season as the 30th best RB.
Seriously though your first 6 picks should be QB, QB, RB, RB, RB, RB
Yeah, if it’s five points for 1 of all those things then that draft is truly a crapshoot. Defensive players will be meaningless and the top defensive player will likely not get half the points during the season as the 30th best RB.
Seriously though your first 6 picks should be QB, QB, RB, RB, RB, RB
Yeah, I was thinking 2 QBs first then at least 3 RBs (pretty deep talent this draft it seems). Not sure Defensive players will be meaningless though…relative to other teams’ defensive picks I mean. But I get your point.
Your offense looks pretty solid for a 18 team league. Nice job grabbing 2 QBs early, I’m sure you have the best QB situation in the league which is good since it will be by far the highest scoring position. I’m not sure but I think you’re in good shape at Rb for a 18 team league with 3 top 30 Rbs. Sproles will get you plenty of return yards so he’ll be a high scorer. BTW, do you have Reggie Bush or Michael Bush at Rb? Cobbs should be fine off the bench even though he won’t get many carries.since he is Miami ‘s primary kick returner WR looks a little weak at first but once you look a little bit, it’s clear you’re probably fine there too. Ward will have enough receptions to score well, as will chambers. Burleson will be a major receiver and punt returner. Henderson is pretty solid for a WR4 I think. Gilyard is probably the worst player on your team but I wouldn’t worry since Eric Weems who is on your bench will likely be Atlanta’s primary returner in both the punt and kick department. Gilyard does have upside though since I wouldn’t be surprised to seem him being used in the offense and returning kicks by years end.
At LB you beat my estimates and should end up near the top of the league with 3 top 22 LBs and 4 top 40. DE looks good too as you ended up with 2 of the top 13. You’ll be far better than average there! At DT I can honestly say I have no idea how you did and that it really doesn’t mean squat. At CB, you grabbed a couple of guys I’ve never even heard of but Arenas will likely return some punts for the Chiefs in addition to playing some on defense. Nice work there, he’ll be one of the better scoring CBs simply because he returns punts. DeAngelo Smith looks like he will be used plenty by the Browns if preseason means anything. Either way he won’t net you many points. Munnerlyn is solid depth at CB. If you had to be weak at a position, you picked a good one to be weak at since CBs won’t score much in your format due to their lack of tackles. You look excellent at Safety with 2 of the top 5 safeties. If Manning returns a lot of kicks he will be up to 140 points better than the next best safety which is a huge advantage for your team. Atogwe is excellent depth and I have him as the 14th best safety in your format. you’ll be solid at safety all year.
Either way my estimates say that at each position you have:
QB - 2 of the top 7 = A massive advantage. You will get a TOn of points from these guys each week.
RB - 5 top 50 Rbs = You should be fine here and will likely be the only team with a capable fill in on bye weeks (Cobbs)
WR - You’re a little weak here but not too much so. I have Burleson as the 3rd best Wr in your format. Ward comes in at around 15. After that you are hurting . Gilyard could be top 25 if he returns kicks and gets to play a little so he has nice upside but the rest of your WRs I have at outside the top 60. That being said Chambers and Henderson have some great upside and will probably be the best WR3 and WR4 in the league. Weems will score pretty regularly too since he’s a primary kick returner.
LB - Somehow you managed to draft 3 interior linebackers which is absurd! You’ll be the only team in your league getting those kind of points out of your LBs. I count 3 top 22 and 4 top 40.
DE - With 2 top 15 DEs, You will be by far the best in the league at this position. That won’t net you the advantage your LB core will but it’s something.
DT - I have no idea and the scoring from DTs s negligible. Ayodele actually seems to be one of the better DTs with 30 tackles last year and Scott should net about 20 tackles this season. This position seems about average for your league.
CB - I think you did great here. Arenas will likely net more points from punt returns than and CB will net total points. Munnerlyn should make a fine CB2 in a league like this and D’Angelo Smith could easily become a top CB given some playing time which I’m sure he’ll get in a Brown’s defense hurting at DB.
Safety - I have no doubt whatsoever that you have the best group of safeties in the league. Manning will likely almost double all other safeties thanks to his kick return yards. Weddle is the 5th best regular safety out there. He’ll be great too. Atogwe as your backup will be better than several teams starting safety. Good job here!
Overall I would be surprised to see you ever lose this season. Your team is ridiculous at the most important position (QB) and you have return yardage coming form several of your Dbs. You followed my advice perfectly when it came to the defensive players. You’ll be golden all year!
P.S. I’d love it if you posted the results of your weekly matchups here. The league is very interesting and I’d love to see how your season turns out. Please keep us updated!
Hey Squish, thanks for the words of encouragement. I followed almost all of your advice and it paid off big time (I hope..lol). Checking the matchups and projected points for the first game, I have the most proj pts and am double many of the other teams. I’ve already received numerous offers for trades…looking for one of my QBs…but of course I’m not biting. Now I’m cherry picking the FA and waiver wire and did replace the Captain with Cliff Avril. Avril was just too good to pass up.
Thanks again bro. Let’s stay in touch and I will certainly post the results each week for my team.
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Nice add, you could have used some depth at DE. Avril will suit you just fine!
It pays off to research the scoring system before the draft. I’m glad I could be of help. I always enjoy a challenge, and your scoring system was definitely a challenge lol. Best of luck on the rest of the year!
Nice add, you could have used some depth at DE. Avril will suit you just fine!
It pays off to research the scoring system before the draft. I’m glad I could be of help. I always enjoy a challenge, and your scoring system was definitely a challenge lol. Best of luck on the rest of the year!
Thanks man. You really seem to know your stuff and I love to learn. Never thought I’d like FF but I’m hooked. Guess it brings out the problem-solver in me. Btw, I dumped my 2 no-name DTs last night and picked up Antonio Johnson and Brandon Membane. Every little bit helps.
Johnson and Mebane look like quality DTs. Nice moves there. I love how active you are on waivers. If you remain that active, you’ll win that league for sure!
Douglas is a good pick up but I think Gilyard will score more points. Gouglas is better value than Weems though so feel free to drop Weems for him.
Johnson and Mebane look like quality DTs. Nice moves there. I love how active you are on waivers. If you remain that active, you’ll win that league for sure!
Douglas is a good pick up but I think Gilyard will score more points. Gouglas is better value than Weems though so feel free to drop Weems for him.
Done. Also, just saw Clifton Smith come on the market…
I would just like to say that this is a crazy league. There is no way I could stay focused during a draft that long. Props to ya for drafting a great roster especially for 18 teams! Would you mind posting your final score in week 1? I just want to see what your match-up looks like after the games are played.
